Coding Agents Are Secretly General Agents

Jay Hack, head of AI at ClickUp, discusses the evolution of AI from early computer vision to generalist coding agents, highlighting how 'positive transfer' makes coding an 'AGI-complete' domain. He delves into the brutal economics of AI startups facing foundation model giants, ClickUp's strategy for convergence and first-party data as a moat, and the challenges of verifiability and catastrophic forgetting. The conversation also explores LLMs at the scientific frontier, the 'car wash test' revealing limits of world models, and speculative future applications like LLM resorts and game integration.