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Open Models: Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, Xi's WAIC Speech, Distillation, The Open-Closed Gap, and What's Next

Open Models: Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, Xi's WAIC Speech, Distillation, The Open-Closed Gap, and What's Next

Nathan Lambert and Florian Brand discuss the accelerating open model landscape, focusing on the surge in Chinese models like Kimi K3 and GLM 5.2. They explore the reasons behind China's progress, the evolving US ecosystem, the cybersecurity implications of open-source bans, and debunk common misconceptions about distillation, particularly challenging Ben Thompson's recent claims. The episode concludes with predictions and a frontier model tier list.

GLM-5.2: The real security risk? Plus: Vibe hunting, the end of CVSS and updates on Lightwell

GLM-5.2: The real security risk? Plus: Vibe hunting, the end of CVSS and updates on Lightwell

This podcast explores the implications of open-weight AI models like GLM-5.2 for cybersecurity, CISA's new four-variable vulnerability prioritization model, the rise of AI-assisted 'vibe hunting,' and the commercial launch of IBM and Red Hat's Lightwell for securing open-source software. It highlights the tension between AI capabilities for attackers and defenders, the challenges of rapid vulnerability remediation, and the need for new "trust infrastructures" in the AI era.